Summary
AnMCUfan hypothesis explain howThunderbolts*is on the QT aDark Avengersmovie . Only one ofthe MCU ’s forthcoming moviesin the Phase 5 slate is a crossover flick : Thunderbolts * , which brings together a squad of MCU anti - heroes and former villains . Led by Valentina Allegra de Fontaine , the MCU ’s Thunderbolts team membersseemingly join force against their will , possibly with the finish of redeem themselves for their criminal past tense . Val ’s MCU team has little to do with the original Thunderbolts from the reservoir material , who are extend by Baron Zemo and let in other villain - turn - heroes such as Songbird and Moonstone .
In the cartoon strip , the original Thunderbolts assemble in rules of order to put on king and popularity under the Avengers ' shadow , but they soon grow comfortable in their function as superheroes and flip Baron Zemo ’s villainous goal around . After Zemo undermine the squad , the Thunderbolts go through several different bloodline - ups and looping , becoming the go - to secret ops police squad for various nefarious masterminds . Jake Schreier’sThunderbolts*plot and castbare lilliputian resemblance to the team ’s comic playscript similitude , but this may be a clever mismanagement scheme to hide the flick ’s real title .
Thunderbolts* Title Mystery Explained
The Asterisk In The Thunderbolts* Title May Be More Important Than It Seems
First denote at San Diego Comic Con 2022,Thunderboltsreceived a deed with typography that resembled the reference material . While the title lacked the team ’s emblematic lightning logo , it was orange and three - dimensional . Thunderboltsthen go bad through several changes , include Steven Yeun and Ayo Edibiri ’s exit from the roll . In March 2024 , Florence Pugh ’s behind - the - scenes footage revealed another change : a minimalisticThunderboltstitle with a cryptical star , which Marvel Studios ' officialXaccount kept in its post . Shortly after , during CinemaCon 2024 , Marvel Studios CEO Kevin Feige plow the star in theThunderboltstitle , saying :
Yes , you ’ll detect the asterisk on Thunderbolts . That is the official statute title of Thunderbolts and we wo n’t verbalize more about that until after the moving-picture show comes out .
Although Kevin Feige affirmed that the asterisk inThunderboltsis functionary , it ’s possible that the current title is only a irregular misdirection . Previously , Feige pull a fast one on the consultation at Comic Con 2014 , announcing the thirdCaptain Americainstallment asCaptain America : Serpent Society , which glower the audience ’s guard until he revealed the flick ’s crowd - pleasing title of respect : Captain America : Civil War . too , the reason why Kevin Feige says he wo n’t talk about theThunderboltsasterisk until after the film ’s release may be that it ’s hiding a major spoiler , which might only make sense for the audience after watching the movie .
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Captain America : Serpent Society ’s title modification is n’t the only misdirection Marvel Studios has used to safeguard major reveals . Several Marvel thespian have denied their appearance in movies despite their on-going negotiations or their already confirmed persona . Benedict Cumberbatch , Paul Rudd , Tatiana Maslany , Jonathan Majors , Patrick Stewart , John Krasinski — and more famously , Andrew Garfield — are some of the actors who confirm that they would n’t play their various MCU purpose shortly before the film and display prove otherwise . Such could also be the vitrine withThunderbolts * .
TheThunderbolts*title could be replaced right before its release , or it could change during the goal credits , similarly toThe Falcon and the Winter Soldier ’s transformation intoCaptain America and the Winter Soldierat the end of the Disney+ show ’s closing curtain .
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Captain America: Brave New World’s Plot Seems To Be Linked To Thunderbolts*' Main Premise
Marvel Studios also releasednewCaptain America : Brave New Worldfootage at CinemaCon 2024 . In it , Harrison Ford ’s President Ross inform Captain America of his intent to renovate Nick Fury ’s Avengers Initiative , possibly propel by less honorable reason than the former SHIELD conductor . The fact that Ross wishes to build his own version of the Avengers at the same time that Valentina Allegra de Fontaine is assembling her team could just be a coincidence . However , it ’s also possible that Val is testing an other version of Ross ' Avengers team before presenting him with a unequivocal line - up .
Captain America : Brave New World tease the getting even of an important Falcon and the Winter Soldier character but with a dour personality .
InBlack Panther : Wakanda incessantly , Valentina Allegra de Fontaine show her interest in gaining power and influence with the aid of a world - changing resourcefulness like Wakanda ’s vibranium . Vibranium may not be a viable option now that Wakanda is freely deal its resources with the rest of the earthly concern . So , the next best option for Val could lie down in the Super Soldier serum and standardised sweetening . However , Val may not limit herself to recruitingall the MCU super soldiersshe can find . She could also find herself a massive reservoir of power and purchase in rent out her squad to contractors like President Ross .
Theory: The Thunderbolts Are Actually The Dark Avengers
The MCU’s Thunderbolts* Movie May Be A Dark Avengers Film In Disguise
If President Ross and Valentina Allegra de Fontaine are on the same pageboy regarding the potential behind a new Avengers team , it ’s only lucid for them to work together to find the Avengers ' alternate before someone else beats them to it . Since the Avengers ' refusal to follow club from regime and secret organisation was clear since their inception , Ross and Val could focus on recruiting anti - hero and villains who wish to remove the red in their daybook . This specify the number and variety of their candidates , but it allows Ross and Val to manipulate their squad however they wish .
In the rootage fabric , Spider - Man villain Norman Osborn rises to power after taking vantage of an external engagement . Withthe Avengers no longer activeand with enough political influence on his hands , Osborn hire the Thunderbolts as his personal exceptional ops team . Osborn understand that the Avengers ' goodwill could mask a similar squad ’s nefarious intentions , so he then tweaks the Thunderbolts ' telephone line - up in rules of order to make them resemble Earth ’s Mightiest Heroes as closely as possible . Given that Norman Osborn seems to be abstracted in the MCU ’s Earth-616 , President Ross and Valentina Allegra de Fontaine could carry out his part .
In the comics , Thaddeus Ross transform into the Red Hulk , who becomes a member of the Thunderbolts at one point . If the MCU ’s Thunderbolts transform into the Dark Avengers , he would be Hulk ’s perfect villain counterpart .
The asterisk in theThunderbolts*title , then , could allude to the Thunderbolts ' transformation into the Dark Avengers . The titular squad could start as a special ops squad hired by Val to help her amass power and resources , but metamorphose into a full - fledged team of nefarious Avengers when President Ross buys it from Val . If accurate , this event is unlikely to take position throughoutThunderbolts * ' main plot , but it could happen the right way before the credits roll or during the film ’s post - credits scene , reason out the moving-picture show with a last turn of events that answer the star question and sets up a newfangled , yet - to - be - announced MCU squad - up movie for Phase 6 or Phase 7 .
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